It doesn't take much to get banned at Blue, just disagree w/Lee-Lee, and faster than you can say "Paul Hooson", you're banned.

Blue is a complete joke and a waste of time, anyway. No surprise it was Lee who banned you, either. He's irrational and so full of venom for any who disagree with him it's ridiculous. He's the reason I stopped visiting Blue to begin with. It'd be nice to get some rationality in a liberal blog site, but Blue isn't the place to get it. Hate-filled hypocracy, yes, but intelligence and rationality, no way.

"be driven by my dark, masochistic desire to read the tripe written over there"

See, ALL better!! Now don't even go peek!!!

So for SPORTS...
How about a solid overview/handicap for the upcoming NFL season.

NOOO BLUE for YOU!! lol

How about a solid overview/handicap for the upcoming NFL season.

I would but I'm still stuck trying to figure of the Favre soap opera.

;-)

I'm actually working on Week 1 Power Rankings! Gee, I wonder who #1 will be? Hmmmmm.....

He can't handle anything but his party line nonsense. I will probably be banned next - then there will only be about 3 people that go there.

Pitiful site; it's an echo chamber and very poorly sourced.

Congratulations, Peter. Putting my name in one of your posts has generated more comments in a couple of hours than you normally generate in a week posting here and on your personal blog, combined.

Oh wait - One of the comments above is yours.. recalcluating.... recalculating.... lol.

Congratulations, Peter. Putting my name in one of your posts has generated more comments in a couple of hours than you normally generate in a week posting here and on your personal blog, combined.

Yes, but at least those scant few posters have exhibited more brains, common sense and reason than the Nodding Head Blue Eeyores have done in a year and half of your postings.

So, Lee Ward uses a double standard pertaining to the use of ad hominem.

And this is supposed to surprise us?

LOL! Wear it as a badge of honor, Peter. You know, I'm surprised you outlasted me...I just don't go over there very often--just once in a "Blue Moon". Even that's too much time for me to spend in that maniacal circus.

Lee, you are a pathetic little twit. The only reason people commented here about you is that everyone around here knows what kind of a gigantic, idiotic jackass you are.

Actually Peter, that's a pretty funny retort. I think Mr. Ward clearly exemplifies the liberal mindset - zero (and I do mean zero)sense of humor. I really liked the posts they've been having lately about McCain's anger issues. It's like look who's calling who angry..... Frankly I think The Blue has extremely high entertainment value, but informative? Not so much.

To be fair and balanced, maybe Wizbang should
reciprocate in kind.

LOL!! I should've wrote, "I'm surprised I outlasted you."

:-P

To be fair and balanced, maybe Wizbang should
reciprocate in kind.

I appreciate the thought, Maggie, but I prefer to have The Big Blue Ban Button Meanie continue to make an ass out of himself by banning people who question and challenge him. But I do appreciate the thought.:-)

LOL! Wear it as a badge of honor, Peter.

I do, like a crown! I have illustrious company in mantis, too! THAT is still the biggest WTF ban...I mean, mantis? Come on....what on earth did he/she say??? LOL

As you surprised?

Lee is a complete fucktard. Blue is a disgrace to anyone with an IQ above about 43.

What I don't get is the complete double standard...

When Lee was harassing everyone on the main page, it took months of begging by every contributer (and pages of discussions) for Kevin to finally ban him...

But Lee bans anyone he wants instantly for no reason other than they are not sharing his same psychotic delusions.

That I just don't get.

Congratulations, Peter!

You have joined a very LARGE club. Spam lasts longer at Wizbang Blue than a dissenting opinion.

Regardless of what they may claim to beleive in, it is clear that what they support most is suppression of ideas. If they truly did represent the liberal side, it certainly would tell us who NOT to vote for in November.

Congratulations, maybe someday I'll be blessed and be banned by Lee, but so far I don't think that has happened. It's entertaining to say the least and addictive to see what stupid things Lee and Paul post next!

Welcome to the club, Peter. As you noted, it's large, growing all the time, and hardly exclusive.

I once heard a TV critic say that you could make a pretty decent TV network if all you aired were shows that ABC had either canceled or passed on. In a similar vein, if you got together all the people Lee Ward has banned, you'd probably have a hell of a great party.

Oh, and I recommend you NOT ban him from here. Once he figures out that he doesn't have the option of simply declaring himself the winner of all arguments and silencing the opposition.

If I was a fraction as thin-skinned as he was, Kevin would have fired my ass years ago. And with good reason.

J.

Jay Tea
Main Page Editor

Damn, even for me that was incoherent...

That should have read "once he figures out that he doesn't have the option of simply declaring himself the winner of all arguments and silencing the opposition, he'll stay away on his own. Plus, since he lives and breathes only two things -- sucking up to Democrats and talking about himself -- that rarely come up around here, he'll have even more reason to keep away."

And the signature should have read:

Jay Tea
Main Page Editor
www.wizbangblog.com

People disagree on Wizbang Blue all the time. It's only when they turn into trolls that they get banned.

Just ask Jay Tea - he was banned. He came back for more trolling -- actually commenting under multiple fake names - hiding behind different identities -- totally breaking Wizbang's commenting policy.

That's right -- this guy....

Jay Tea
Main Page Editor
www.wizbangblog.com

Was over on Wizbang Blue trolling, hiding under fake names. Lol... banned!

All you have to do is read the comment threads at Wizbang and you'll see the same names as above -- doing the same thing.... name-calling and cussing, but avoiding the issue at hand, and avoiding any form of real debate at all costs.

Wizbang comment threads used to have 50-60 -- sometimes a hundred comments. Now the same troll patrol -- Peter, marc, Blogical etc., rule over comment threads on Wizbang that are nothing more than echo chambers lined with their grade-school humor.... shouting down anone who disagrees, and it's patrolled by an egotistical ass who is so full of himself it spills over into everything he does. Jay created this little trolldom, and he ran a good blog right into the ground.

The kind of childish behavior you see above isn't tolerated at Wizabang Blue...and the trolls don't like it all. So periodically one shows up and does their best to get banned, hurling insults and avoiding the subject at hand, and I'm happy to oblige.

Who's next?

Lee's absolutely right on one point. I did come back to Blue, using sock puppets.

What he didn't tell you was that I did it on an article lauding Glenn Greenwald, infamous sock puppeteer, using the very same pseudonyms Greenwald used and in such a way as to make it flagrantly obvious that it was sock puppetry.

Lee was banned from the main page because he couldn't limit himself to the topics at hand, and insisted on carrying out personal attacks and vendettas against the authors. Every single discussion involving him ended up the same -- him calling people "liars," "lying liars," "filthy liars," and so on and so on.

The mutual banning -- me from Blue and Lee from the main page -- was Kevin's solution, and it still didn't stop Lee from libeling me once so badly I probably should have contacted a lawyer instead of Kevin, who removed the grossly offending comment.

That incident is the sole reason I still keep an eye on Blue -- it's purely self-defense. I know I can't trust him to not defame me that way again.

But as I said, don't be a Lee and ban him. Let him stick around for a while. He eventually makes the case for his dismissal flagrantly obvious.

Oh, I do want to make one more correction to my original comment. Lee doesn't "defend Democrats." He's purely an offensive creature (pun intended). All through the primaries he attacked Obama relentlessly, and now that Obama's the nominee he's going his trademarked spittle-spewing batshit crazy on McCain.

Please, keep this precaution in mind. If you insist on dealing with Lee, make sure you have all your shots up to date. God only knows what you could catch.

J.

"All you have to do is read the comment threads at Wizbang and you'll see the same names as above -- doing the same thing.... name-calling and cussing, but avoiding the issue at hand, and avoiding any form of real debate at all costs."

Another Olympian effort at mental gymnastics to distort reality. You lose again, Lee; reality bites for you.

For the incalculable time, Lee looks in the mirror, describes what he sees, then projects his behavior onto other people...in addition to displaying his fondness for the words "lie" and "liar" almost every single time he comments or prints an article.

Big shocka!!! LOL!!

Lee, the only reason people ever read your spastic drivel is to take a peek inside the barking moonbat bin and laugh. You never disappoint.

J.,

Here's the funny thing: He was surprisingly thoughtful enough to ask me if he could reprint the response I sent to him after he banned me. I considered given him the green light, just let him make a further jackass of himself.

Then I thought about how dumb that would be.

If the man can't stick to his own established rules ("The kind of childish behavior you see above isn't tolerated at Wizabang Blue"....unless it's the editor himself, then it's hunky dorey), I have no reason to trust that what I said would be represented in proper context. Given that possibility, coupled with the fact that I couldn't respond or defend myself after being banned, well, that just sealed the deal on me not responding at all.

Anyhow, like I said, I don't know how to ban somebody. Even if I did, I don't want to give him that satisfaction.

Oh, and thanks for the recommendation on getting shots. (I'm still undergoing delousing treatments from my previous visits to Blue.)

Glad to see you didn't get fooled by the e-mail Lee vs. the public Lee. For quite some time, he was very polite and collegial in e-mail, while excoriating me in public. I finally told him I was tired of dealing with his two-faced conduct and ended all direct contact.

The guy's a raving whackjob, and I feel sorry for those who learn that directly instead of from others' experience.

J.

People disagree on Wizbang Blue all the time. It's only when they turn into trolls that they get banned.

Hysterical.

Lee, we aren't referring to one of the faux arguments between you, Paul, and Steve when you all can't decide if Republicans are responsible for 95%, 98%, or 100% of all the ills in the world as "disagreement".

In the real world, people have opposing opinions .... that's complete opposite opinions for you ... and no one calls them "trolls" simply for disagreeing and bans them from commenting.

For the record, I didn't even disagree with you and got banned.

Just ask Jay Tea - he was banned. He came back for more trolling -- actually commenting under multiple fake names - hiding behind different identities -- totally breaking Wizbang's commenting policy.

That's right -- this guy....

Jay Tea
Main Page Editor
www.wizbangblog.com

Was over on Wizbang Blue trolling, hiding under fake names. Lol... banned!

After reading his explanation of the situation, he apparently made no effort whatsoever to hide precisely what he was doing.

I would describe it as "civil disobedience" in the face of state (of WizbangBlue) oppression. Sort of like all those protestors who are going to see the inside of Denver's "Guantanemo" during the DNC convention.

Of course, had you had the cajones to meet his original disagreement face to face, he could have made his objections under his regular name.

All you have to do is read the comment threads at Wizbang and you'll see the same names as above -- doing the same thing.... name-calling and cussing, but avoiding the issue at hand, and avoiding any form of real debate at all costs.

I do occasionally read the comment threads at Wizbang Blue. I am not proud of it, but do so for the same reason that people often go to Demolition Derbies. The crashes are inevitable. I recall one day when you threatened 3 different individuals with banning if they didn't respond in the manner you demanded.

What I don't do is read the articles anymore(since I got banned) that prompt the comments. Why bother reading what I can't respond to? Virtually every blogger on the Internet does so in order to get their message heard by someone else. Wizbang Blue is the only place I have ever visited that goes out of its way to make sure as few people as possible hear their messge.

Oh, and for the record, when I got banned, I neither used a swear word or called anyone a name. In response to a post saying that McCain should be judged by the people in his campaign, I asked if Wizbang Blue would be consistent and do the same with Obama. My comment was deleted. I got banned (and deleted again) for asking if you were serious for deleting my original comment.

No name calling. No cussing. My two comments were the first I had even attempted in months.

My definition of "troll" is someone who posts 15 paragraphs of porn links in a thread on Obama's economic policies. Can you give us a definiton of yours?

Wizbang comment threads used to have 50-60 -- sometimes a hundred comments. Now the same troll patrol -- Peter, marc, Blogical etc., rule over comment threads on Wizbang that are nothing more than echo chambers lined with their grade-school humor.... shouting down anone who disagrees, and it's patrolled by an egotistical ass who is so full of himself it spills over into everything he does. Jay created this little trolldom, and he ran a good blog right into the ground.

I can't speak to how many comments Wizbang may have gotten before. (Well, because I have a real life.) I do find your description amusing, however, because it does describe you in my opinion.

No one here at Wizbang handed me my own page ... where discussion of women's issues, education, and, of course, Stargate could be discussed at length. If they had, I sure as hell wouldn't have banned people for daring to suggest that Ben Browder's Cameron Mitchell was not a substitute for Jack O'Neill, but a complex character in his own right.

I know that I personally welcomed an opportunity to hear a liberal viewpoint and I have seen dozens at Wizbang make similiar statements. Many people will not vote for Obama for a single issue, but it doesn't make them lock-step conservatives. They are willing to listen and DISCUSS issues at odds with their views, but it doesn't mean they are going to swallow an argument without question - which, apparently is the requirement to post at Wizbang Blue. You have squandered a great opportunity.

Buy a sense of humor, Lee.

The kind of childish behavior you see above isn't tolerated at Wizabang Blue...and the trolls don't like it all. So periodically one shows up and does their best to get banned, hurling insults and avoiding the subject at hand, and I'm happy to oblige.

Who's next?

Apparently that behavior IS tolerated at Wizbang Blue. Were I Paul or Steve, I would have done everything possible to get rid of you long ago.

OhioVoter, funny you should mention that. A while ago, you could have said "were I Paul, Steve, or Larkin," but that's changed...

J.

Denise, I see that Lee linked back to this thread after implying that you were going to be banned from Blue as well.

The really hysterical part is Paul and Lee discussing the possible reasons why you are weren't engaging in debate with him.

Lee was typically misogynistic while Paul was typically ... well ... full of it.

Anyway, welcome to the club. ;-)

I banned myself from Blue months ago after- I don't remember if it was Lee or Paul- I asked why no links to support one of the his "postings". His response was he refused to to link what he considered an odious site and that I was most likely a tinfoil hatted member of the wingnut brigrade. They are classy over there.

I've noted this before, but it sure says a lot that I've been banned from Blue but not Wizbang. Says a lot about both sides, in fact, but we already knew that Wizbang was open to reasonable (and even a lot of unreasonable) debate from all perspectives.

They've never banned me. I seem to be invisible to them, but annoying all the same.

I recommend you NOT ban him from here. Once he figures out that he doesn't have the option of simply declaring himself the winner of all arguments and silencing the opposition.

Well, I'm banned now too. Can we start a club??

He couldn't stand to hear that the RNC had the rights for Heart's "song". he' rather rant and lie about it.

Friday afternoon, we heard back from the McCain campaign, which issued the following statement: "The McCain campaign respects intellectual property rights. Accordingly, prior to using 'Barracuda' at any events, we paid for and obtained all necessary licenses."

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2008/09/05/mccain-campaign-to-go-heart-less/

Uhm... I included that info in my post (see 'Update II"). I used that exact quote as a matter of fact.